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“All this is mine – now get lost” (literally).

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on October 5, 2007


My friend Yael wrote:

 

But to the wicked, God said, ‘To what purpose do you recount My decrees and bear My covenant upon your lips?’ For you hate discipline and you threw My words behind you….These have you done and I kept silent, You thought that I was like you – I will rebuke you and lay it clearly before your eyes…..He who offers confession, honors Me; and one who orders his way, I will show him the salvation of God.

Let’s do a modern take on this passage:

But to those who say My Torah has been ‘fulfilled’, God said, ‘To what purpose do you claim to know my decrees? What’s this new covenant on your lips? Give me a break. You hate the discipline of following Torah and claim it’s all been done away with in the past. You did this and because I didn’t knock you up side the head you thought I was cool with what you were doing. Not hardly. Why don’t you go back and read Torah again without all your preconceived ideas of what it says? All I require is confession from your mouth and following mitzvot. All who do this will be shown My salvation [which is NOT your version of it!].

One thing more than anything annoys me with most, if not all Xians. How they claim to know better than us Jews what Torah means. How they claim some sort of interpretational ownership of OUR Holy Scriptures. It’s so arrogant, and condescending. Like some distant second cousin they come and lay claim to the Jewish Birth Right, that without even offering a bowl of lentel soup for it. They just step into OUR house and says: “All this is mine – now get lost” (literally).

Then it turns out they don’t want it, they just want bits and pieces here and there, that they fancy to be true, the rest they just flush down the toilet, like so much crap. They don’t care about Shabbat, or Family Purity, or about Kashrut, they just want what is “comfortable” and that fits with their Greek religion.

I don’t know how many times I have argued with Xians over Isaiah 7 – how that is not some messianic prophecy, how it’s a prophecy for a specific Israeli King at a specific time, and how the words in Hebrew don’t even match their interpretation, and how that specific prophecy was actually fullfilled in the time it was given, but no, I am Jewish, so I am blind, I can’t see straight, I, in my evil Jewish heart (if I have one) am so corrupted by my denial of their truth, that I, and all my ancestors, must have mis-read, mis-understood and must be so evil that I am deliberately spreading lies, because that is in my nature as a Jew.

Now, I do know a lot of Xians who don’t see it this way, who are respectfully trying to learn and accept the Jewish interpretation of the Tanakh, and even live by it – I can respect that – but the rest – Pffft.

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Sanctimonius Bullshit Part 2

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 4, 2007


After I commented on Sanctimonious Bullshit in response to the guy who wrote the original quote, I decided that my response was deserving of a Blog Entry all of its own.

“Thanks for the comment. You made some very interesting assumptions. First of all, I’m not “an adherent of one of the most murderous religions on earth.” No more than I am an adherent for racism, just because many in this nation used to be (and many still are) racists. Do you disown your family because of past mistakes they’ve made? Could Christianity not have changed for the better over the centuries? I denounce the Crusades and other murderous acts of Christians. They were not “of God.” That’s not what Jesus taught. So, no, I won’t be saying that we can’t judge “Xtianism” by a “few bad eggs” during the past 2000 years. I will be saying, “Judge Christianity for what it is TODAY.” No different than you wanting to be judged for who you are today, not in your past.”

Did I say one word about the Crusades? No I did not. Because I am judging Xianism for what it is today – and it is still murderous. It still preaches the Global conversion of Jews, Pagans, Muslims and others, to whom it’s equal to spiritual suicide to convert to a religion not of their ancestors. Unfortunately this command to commit spiritual murder is in the Greek Scriptures, along side a whole lot of other Anti-other-religions speech.

If you believe that Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Hindus, Buddhists and all others who are not Xians should convert to Xianism, then you are an adherent of one of the most murderous religions on earth – TODAY.

I have been trashed by ordinary, non-hostile Xians for using the terms “many Xians” the same way you used many in “So here’s a religion in which many of its followers are seeking to kill Christians” – so somehow it is a generalizing term – besides during the last 6 years to date Xian soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed Xians in the last 1400 years…

I would not have objected if you had said “Radical Islamists”, but you didn’t – you generalized.

Now, what is good for the goose should be good for the gander, Nuh?

“Will you deny that a growing number of Islamics are extremists who wish to rid this planet of anyone who is not Islamic?”

Actually, I would – I would say that is a fear filled and Islamophobic hyperbole. Why, because the number of Radical Islamists during the last 1400 years have been constant, just as it has been constant when it comes to Radical Xianists. What have changed though is the way we communicate in the World, both Virtually and in 3-D. Before 9/11 the US didn’t bother to monitor the Arab World – but nothing have changed since 9/11 – just the way people get around.

Saying that people are not “of G-d” because they misbehave when it comes to your own religion and not extending the same “excuse” to the “Muslims” that do not represent Islam is sanctimonious.

I will comment more, but now I have to relinquish the computer to my wife -)

next installment:

By the way, how many radicals of 300 million does it take to create a dangerous situation?

Isn’t this just another way of spreading the Islamophobic hyperbole, I think it is – I could counter with saying that a radical fraction of 2 billion Xians is as dangerous – and name those too – the people adhering to the message of the book series “Left Behind”, which among other things teach children to kill non-believers, the members of the American Family Association, and other more or less militant, aggressive Xian Fundamentalist “ministries”. Now, those are Radical Xianists, and by all means let’s not forget the White Supremacist Groups, that also profess to be Xians, and the groups that blow up abortion clinics, murder doctors and nurses that are willing to perform abortions…good Xian kids who go gay-bashing as a weekend pass time – or for that matter people who think like Ann Coulter “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”

“Third, I have read about judging, AND I pray about it. You had no problem quoting Jesus in Matthew 7:1, but you didn’t finish the quote:

“For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.”

Jesus qualifies our judging. He says that the way we judge others is the way he’s going to judge us.”

Now if we just read it – and not attribute the judging to Yeshu ben Miriam – what do we get? Right – as you judge others you will be judged by them – what goes around comes around – what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If I’m judged according to my blog statement, I don’t think I have much concern. Praying for a religion that has a growing radical element is NOT judging them.

But you are judging them – by deeming that they need your prayers – how the h-ll do you know that? You don’t. You assume they do, judged by your standards, and your ideas of what Prayer is – of which you can know nothing, neither of us do. The very idea that other people are in need of your prayers is arrogant and presumptious.

It’s praying for them. My prayer for Islamics is that they WILL be a peaceful religion and stop those within their movement who seek to radicalize it.

Well, you sure aren’t helping things by putting out Blog entries that only serve to heat things up, rather than cool them down, through Islamophobic hyperbole and generalizations. On the contrary, you are only adding to ideas like that of Ann Coulter.

By the way, that’s the same prayer I often lift up for Christianity. I wouldn’t call that hypocrisy. I’d call it consistency.

That you can do, but leave the rest of the world alone. Really.

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