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The Loss of an Identity – Revision

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on July 3, 2014


This blog entry was originally written on August 5, 2006.
But with the appearance of ISIS/IS, I feel that a revision and expansion is in order.

In response to a friend, I wrote:
“I assume you are speaking about Haim Harari’s Undeclared WWIII.

Yes, it might sound like that, but in fact, he is claiming that there is a war going on, and then he explains how this is. I agree that he is drawing it to its extremes, when he claims that it is the Islamic world against the rest of the World. However, I do think he has a point about the method, structure and underlying reasons for terror actions as such. Instruments of terror used to be assassinations, revolutions, and up-risings – they were traditionally aimed at governments. Even the IRA did not target the public, although they used modern methods of Terrorism (bombings, hostage taking etc.) – the Islamic militants have changed the targeting and execution of Terrorism. I agree that not all Islamists are Terrorists – I suspect, but it is only a suspicion, that it has to do with culture. The Muslims of Indonesia are Peaceful, but it seems to me that Muslims in the Middle East are not, and even that is a generalization, because not all Muslims in the Middle East are non-Peaceful…so it is a specific group, not necessarily tied to their Islamic Faith. Then what is it? I think Haim Harari gives a pretty good picture.[a side note:]I am now going to say something that might sound like I am saying that Islam is a Barbaric Religion – it’s hard for me to explain this, mostly because English is not my native tongue, so please keep this in mind.

Put Islam into a historical/cultural perspective and it becomes pretty clear that the Middle East is a Tribal Society, based in Tribal Religion – Yes, Judaism is a Tribal Religion too – the only real difference between Judaism and Islam in this context is TIME. Judaism has been around for some 2000 years longer than Islam, which means that if you give Islam in the Middle East and its adherents another 1500 years (at most) it will have “evolved” beyond explicit Tribal culture. This is not intended as an expression value or judgment. Let us not forget that Saladin the Great founded one of the most advanced and enlightened civilizations the world has ever seen. I do not intend to insult Islam or Muslims, and if I have done so, I apologize.

I think that what Haim Harari is aiming at is not Islam or even Muslims, but this Tribal Culture that is using Islam as a pretext for its craziness. It could just as well have been Xianism or Shintoism or for that matter Judaism, the Religion is just a coat in which these militants are covering themselves. Trying to force Nations to adopt Political Systems that they have not yet acquired the readiness for, through political evolution, such as is now being done in Iraq, is only going to make matters worse. Each nation has to arrive at their own brand of democracy – unfortunately, we in the West are trying to force OUR brand of democracy on the Nations of the Middle/Near East, and like it or not but that is not going to work, because, fast or slow, they have to work out what democracy is within their context.

Some often point to the fact that Israel is a functioning democratic State, yet it is situated in the Middle and Near east. They forget that Israel was founded by Jews raised within the European Sphere, for at least the last 1000 years, and Jews from out-side the Middle/Near East are constantly immigrating to Israel – this gives Israel a different angle of approach.

And again, if I have said anything that is offending or insulting to Muslims or Islam – please tell me, because that was never my intention, and I did so unwittingly.”

Another Friend then commented:

“How does the tribal religion context mix in with violence? I do not see the absolute connection.”

Not Tribal RELIGION – Tribal CULTURE. I pointed out that Islam and Judaism are both Tribal Religions, because it was in Religion that TRIBE originated once upon a time. Most Societies have managed to transition from Tribal to National Culture often through significant adaptations of Religious Belief – the appearance of Islam is one such adaptation – not of the Quran, Torah or the Bible, but of Tribal Religion(s) indigenous to the Near and Middle East. If we “clean out” the religious aspect from the Prophet Muhammad, what we have is a political leader with a vision. A vision of all Arab tribes UNITED into ONE PEOPLE. The best way to unite and solidify a Society is through Religion – The Jews did it, The Egyptians did it…That is why I say that if we give Islam another 1500 years (at most) we will most likely see another Ottoman Empire as it was when it was at its high. Political evolution.

Tribal Culture and violence mix if you think of yourself as part of a Tribe that has to defend the tribal territory from competing tribes. If you look at any terror organization, you will see that they are all individually operating “cells.”
What holds the tribe together is either a common cause or a strong emotional common bond, if there are no such direct causes or emotional bonds, religion is a very strong replacement/connector.

The best analogy I can give is the gang-culture in most larger cities or the example of religious/political cults – William Golding actually describes this very well in Lord of the Flies – what is it that drive the boys in Lord of the Flies? Fear. Fear that is being used/manipulated by the one with either the most resources or the most genial ways of inflicting pain. Haim Harari suggests that the terror organizations’ low-rank members are being manipulated and used by leaders with genial ways of inflicting pain – what greater pain can there be than being ostracized from the only community you are being told you belong in? Or from G-d Himself?

We all know that Islam doesn’t prescribe FGM [Female Genital Mutilation] Yet it is basically only known to Islamic Countries in North and North Central Africa – and it is being enforced/taught to people using distortions of Islam, – why do you think that is? Because of Islam? No, because of a strong tribal culture. Women/girls who manage to escape undergoing FGM are without exception expelled/shunned in some way or other – because they, through no conforming to the customs of the “tribe,” have, in the eyes of the “tribe,” denounced the “tribe.” Humans are social beings, we will do pretty much anything to avoid being alone and on the out-side.

In most tribal societies, the one with the most resources, thankfully, is the one that acts as the Leader, so violence does not come into play unless there’s a competing tribe moving in on the territory.

Two small tribes may even work together for a short period to vanquish a larger tribe. When the goal is achieved the two small tribes will go their separate ways, only to next day be fighting each other again for the disputed hill-top or fishing water – or simply to achieve honor, either for the Tribe or for Head of the Tribe.

If the head of the tribe is G-d or something that replaces G-d, like strong emotions, such as anger, joy or grief, then you have a good incentive. This is true, especially if leaders of the tribe tell you that G-d expects you to die for the Tribe, preferably taking a couple of people from the other tribe with you as you exit from this world. Add to this, fiery rallies, giant meetings, demonstrations – those are nothing but replacements for spiritual experiences.
Just look at Germany during the Third Reich – ordinary, good, moral and ethical Germans were gathering en masse for the privilege to chant “Heil H-tler” and “Sieg Heil” and sing “Horst Wessel” – even those who did not believe in Nazism, who went to one or two of those rallies would find themselves chanting along, salute and all. What was Nazi Germany’s basic chant?

“Us, we the tribe, against them, the other Tribe”.

What was it Hitler used to drive that home? The Versailles Peace Treaty, a moment in history that most Germans thought of with feelings of being humiliated.

Guess what – the Arabs of the Near/Middle East have their own Versailles Peace treaty, only it was signed at Sevres 1920. Most came from that Peace Treaty feeling screwed, royally screwed. The anger many Arab Nations have towards the West is actually well based in history. When the Ottoman Empire fell, many Arabs felt that they had really, really lost something. They had lost what made them ARABS. Oh, they were still Arabs, and they were still Muslims, but their sense of self had been shattered.

Now, most went on, picking up the pieces, without much ado – but within the fabric of the Arab Nations in the Near and Middle East, there were those for whom there were no pieces to pick up, no alternative other than trying to either get it back or at least get even. Those were easy prey for the power hungry and the unscrupulous. What is it most of these Groups/Nations are saying they want? An Islamic/Muslim IDENTITY. They want to become ARABS again, as they were under Muhammad, and under Saladin the Great – and we are telling them, from their perspective that they can’t ever be allowed to be ARABS. No wonder they hate us.

Therefore, when someone comes along and tell these lost Arabs that he can give them this back, and more even, they grab it. Not all – as I said above, not all Arabs feel this way, but the ones with just a little too much hopelessness do. Along the way, I believe they have lost sense of what is really, really driving them. Now it has just become hatred aimed at the “Other Tribe.”

I wrote this in 2006. Now, eight years later, a radical Islamic group, ISIS/IS has emerged out of the Syrian civil war and the Arab spring, declaring an independent Islamic Caliphate.

“The jihadist insurgent group ISIS, or as it now prefers to be called, the Islamic State, appears well on the road to achieving its stated goal: the restoration of the caliphate. The concept, which refers to an Islamic state, presided over by a leader with both political and religious authority, dates from the various Muslim empires that followed the time of the Prophet Muhammad. From the seventh century onward, the caliph was, literally, his “successor.” (NY Times July 2 2014).

This group is a, as far as I can determine a direct descendant of Al-Qaida. Their purpose is not to wreck general havoc in the West. They are very open about wanting a re-establishment and restoration of what the Arabs lost in the Sevres. They do not want the Ottoman Empire. They want the sense of Arab identity they had under Saladin.

The Ayyubid empire under Saladin in 1188.

The Ayyubid empire under Saladin in 1188.

You and I can argue that they are crazy; that they have no idea what they have taken on, and so on. We might be right. We might be wrong. In the end, we will find that forcing democracy on others, or dictating to others what they should do, is a bad move. By consistently and relentlessly pushing our Western points of view and ways of doing things on the Arab world, we are not only painting ourselves into a corner that can only lead to more military ‘solutions’, we are forcing the Arab world to defend itself through military offense. We are literally causing the bloodshed we push our ways on others to avoid.

ISIS controlled or claimed territories July 2014

ISIS controlled or claimed territories July 2014

 

 

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Fundamentalism Second Take

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on July 29, 2007


My first take is here: Fundamentalism

 

From Dale’s Blog

2000 years ago, J*sus warned his early followers: “Not everyone who calls to me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do my Father’s will may enter. On the Judgment Day many will say to me, ‘Lord, didn’t we prophesy, cast out demons, and do many miracles in your name?’ But I will say to them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you that do evil!’ ” (Matthew 7:21-23)

I would suggest that the thing which will condemn someone to hell, even though they profess to believe in J*sus, will be the person’s placing the Bible above God Himself. Fundamentalists have claimed for over a century that the Bible is the Word of God and is therefore infallible. This claim has no support whatsoever. Attempts to support it by references to the Bible are circular reasoning. Only God Himself should ever be seen as infallible, and since we have no direct contact with Him, we have nothing that may be considered infallible. The Bible, the Q’uran, and other religious books may be inspired by faith in God, but they are still human products, and are thus prone to error like all other human products. The Q’uran itself condemns the tendency of man to make partners with Allah, so should it be acceptable for any Muslim to make the Quran a partner with Allah?

In this physical world, there is NOTHING and NO ONE that may rightfully be called infallible!”

To which Harry responded…:

  1. Posted July 24, 2007 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Soooo…..if the Bible is just a collection of men in past times idea of what God was trying to say, then – what? Surely without the acceptance that the Bible is handed by God to man through divine inspiration, as God’s infallible word to His creation, then any old oddball doctrine – say gold plates from Joseph Smith, Jim Jones Socialism or Reverend Moon oddballness can simply claim God tells me things and this is truth. We have to have a measure by which doctrine is measured, or else we have the mess which people such as yourself who preach atheistic materialism. You’ll be telling us next we’re all stardust, LSD is good and we should hug a tree for Gaia (because God tells you so).


I would like to commend Dale on his excellent exposition of Matthew 7:21-23! It has rarely been said so well :-).

I also agree with Dale on the rest. Only G-d is infallible and has the right to judge.

Let me respond to Harry point by point:

“Soooo…..if the Bible is just a collection of men in past times idea of what God was trying to say, then – what?”

Indeed then what? Only a person who needs the threat of hell over him to act ethically and righteously would have to ask. The rest of us have no trouble living by what Torah says, because it makes sense or because it’s a good idea in itself. To us it really doesn’t matter if Torah came down directly from G-d to Moshe, or if it is a collection of edited rules for good living – what matters to us is G-d.

“Surely without the acceptance that the Bible is handed by God to man through divine inspiration, as God’s infallible word to His creation, then any old oddball doctrine – say gold plates from Joseph Smith, Jim Jones Socialism or Reverend Moon oddballness can simply claim God tells me things and this is truth.”

Of course, and they have every right to do so – because G-d is merely interested in what you DO – not how you came about what to do. Torah doesn’t need to be “handed by God to man through divine inspiration, as God’s infallible word to His creation” – because in the end it’s all about what we believe it to be, and what we do with it.

“We have to have a measure by which doctrine is measured…,”

The bitch about any Holy Scripture – be it Xtian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist – is that the only measure we have by which to measure it is BELIEF/FAITH. All we can scientifically establish about religious scriptures is an approximate time period of when it was first put to paper, where it was put to paper, and some times also by whom – but the actual objective truth or values of it’s contents cannot be established by science.

“…or else we have the mess which people such as yourself who preach atheistic materialism.”

So by what measure are you measuring yourself after you violated Torah witnessing false against your neighbor? It sure isn’t Torah.

“(Exo 20:16) (20:13) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

(Deu 5:20) (5:17) Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.”

I have known Dale for several years – and he does not preach atheistic materialism – nor has he ever done so as long as I have known him. He professes to be an agnostic – i.e he claims that the existence of G-d cannot be either proven or disproven. Rather than being a materialist he is very much an ethical/spiritual sceptic, which is far from being an atheist materialist.

You, Harry, on the other hand is a dreadful example for your badly hidden beliefs – actually proving Dale’s point right with every word you utter here.

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So far what’s happening on another Blog that I found interesting.

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Islamophobia as a way of life…

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on July 22, 2007


From

 

It’s All Hog Wash!

It is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of extreme hate. How can a peaceful person sanction members of their faith violently killing innocent men, women, children and even babes in arms. Even worse they will sanction the sacrifice of their own children in the killing of people they don’t even know. How can anyone harbor that much hate? Because they are told that only through “Jihad”, through holy war, can they hope to enter heaven. This is instilled within them from a young age and is combined with the incessant teaching of hate. If they can’t quite bring themselves to be a violent martyr or murderer they become a demonstrator or a passive enabler. A few become silent “moderates”.

 

If all this weren’t bad enough keep in mind it is also the prime tenant of Islam that everyone in the world must become Muslim and be subject to Shari’ah, Islamic law. Most people resist Christian evangelism simply by refusing to listen. How do you resist Islamic evangelism? The first step is to recognize the hog wash about Islam being a peaceful religion.


This is one of the most hateful, inaccurate and Islamophobic blogs I have ever come across. Thank you George W Bush for making it not only acceptable to be this Islamophobic, but indeed making it a way of life.

I read this and shiver, because it is reminiscent of  the kind of inflamed religious propaganda that f.i Martin Luther spewed about Jews or the Iranian President are spewing about Jews. I am sorry if this offends any Xtian, but this is exactly why so many people are opposed to any kind of Evangelical Xtianism – its hatred for anything that is not Xtian and its violent teaching about how to oppose that which is not Xtian.

For years I have been debating Xtians about the violence, hatred and bloodshed perpetrated against Jews, Pagans,  Muslims and Atheists by Xtians using the Xtian Doctrine as a weapon. Over and over I have been told that “Xtianism cannot be judge by the actions of some few mislead professors…” by Xtians of all kinds – also the kinds represented by the quote above.

Then I come across this kind of hatred – pulling all of Islam and all Muslims into one big bunch of hate filled  bloodthirsty monsters – and this is not the only place – I have seen it in Xtian Bible Study Groups on-line, in news items and in other blogs, and cannot help but feel that those who told me not to judge by the actions of a few are nothing but hypocrites.

Any religious doctrine can be distorted, any religious path can be used to further megalomania and fascism – however peace-loving it really is.

If Buddhism had been the prevalent religion among the terrorists that blew up WTC and the trains in London and Madrid, George W Bush and his hate-filled Disciples would have been ranting about what violent hog wash Buddhism is.

As it is Islamophobia has become a way of life among Right-Wing, Evangelical religious people, and I doubt it’s going to change any time soon.

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Continued from Last Entry

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on June 19, 2007


“Bear, this thread is about stereotypes I do not like 12:42 PMI never said it was you…you did that…and I never mentioned where the video was…you did that.

I do not like the stereotypes on the video, and I find them offensive.

I said “proposedly Jewish friend”…which means to me that the person posting the video claims to be Jewish, which is true.

This group is also about dispelling false stereotypes. To me, that video is full of false stereotypes.”

“[…], 12:55 PM

you said “proclaimed Jewish Friend” – regardless of who this person is – why is it important to bring the alleged Jewishness into this? Also, considering our latest conversations in NM, me suspecting you of underhandedly bringing up my supposed Anti-Arabism (which is also), is not at all surprising.

Second – the video is a PEACE VIDEO – there are no Israelis there, no Jews, and the images could be from any Western Country, except the one of Bush and Cheney, and any Arab Country in the World – it’s Video about the unnecessary clash between our prejudices about each other – where ever we live.

To claim that the video is depicting Americans and Israelis against Muslims is utter horse manure, regardless of your own perceptions – it’s simply FALSE. You could easily have brought this stereotype here without distorting the intent and mission of the video.”

“Bear, this thread is about stereotypes of nationalities 1:19 PM

It is full of stereotypes. I take offense to the stereotypes, and want to clear it up.

Again, I never said which video it was, or whose video it was…I never even said which “proposedly Jewish friend”…I have hundreds of friends on care2, and many are “proposedly Jewish”. Again, you announced on this thread that it was your video.”

For crying out loud – of course the video is full of stereotypes, that is the purpose of the video – to visualize the prejudices we have and then ask us: IS THIS HOW YOU SEE ME?

But there’s a far cry between saying that the video is full of stereotypes and claiming that it’s a video depicting the US and Israel together against Muslims…

Please, ignorant woman! GO BACK TO SCHOOL and don’t leave until you can pass without mistakes and fumbles.

Shalom

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Reading things into things that doesn’t exist there…

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on June 19, 2007


“I saw a video on a proclaimed Jewish friend’s blog that I found incredibly offensive…it showed U.S. citizens and Israelis as being one and the same against Muslims.”

This woman was referring to this video: only proving that she has understood nothing what the video is saying. And thus inferring that I am Anti-Arab. Which I am not, nor have ever been – I am Anti-War, Anti-Prejudice

She then – after I called her on it by saying this:

“[…]if you look at the video you will see that it doesn’t depict Israelis and Americans as being against Arabs – it shows how we are all the same. Same blood, same wishes, same needs…to make that Avaaz.org video into a racist, anti-Arab thing is simply wrong and means you have misunderstood the video entirely. I was pointed to it by a Pro-Palestinian.I would also like to know

why it is important to define “your friend” as Jewish? What does his Jewishness have to do with anything in this?

Are you profiling me? Trying to play into an anti-semitic/ anti-Jewish sentiment? Don’t you think that is counterproductive to the idea of this group? Even a bit bigoted? Racist perhaps?”

She replies:

“Bear, I was pointing that it is a stereotype I do not like and would like to dismiss The video, to me, showed Israelis and Americans as one on one side, and Muslims on the other side. I found it incredibly offensive, and want to clear up the stereotype.”

How can a video that is not depicting any Jewish People or Israelis even figure as a stereotype in this? Even in someone’s imagination. Unless there’s something very wrong in that person’s ideas about Jewish People.

Shalom!

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Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the Crescent Moon

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on June 5, 2007


An article in the Egyptian state-owned newspaper al-Akhbar on February 3, 2002 stated:

“All the evils that currently affect the world are the doings of Zionism. This is not surprising, because the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which were established by their wise men more than a century ago, are proceeding according to a meticulous and precise plan and time schedule, and they are proof that even though they are a minority, their goal is to rule the world and the entire human race.”

Nowhere has the Protocols been published in so many editions and so many copies as in the Arab World – not even in Germany during WWII. It pains me because on the one hand the world is full of Muslims and Arabs that are as opposed to Anti-Semitism as I am, and yet the Protocols are being used to dupe, betray and manipulate Arab and Muslim People into believing that Jews are the evil of all evil.

PA Daily:

“Morale and psychological manipulation has a significant place in the minds of Jews, and formed a very important source of strength in the “Hebrew State”… Disinformation has been one of the bases of morale and psychological manipulation among the Israelis, and propaganda played an important role in the psychological prodding of world political leaders to support Zionism… The “Protocol’s of the Elders of Zion” did not ignore the importance of using propaganda to promote the Zionist goals. In the second protocol is written: “Through the newspapers we will have the means to propel and to influence”. In the twelfth protocol: “Our governments will hold the reins of most of the newspapers, and through this plan we will possess the primary power to turn to public opinion.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily, Jan 25 2001]”
The Cover of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion published by the Palestinian Authority.

“The Egyptian 40 part TV series connecting the State of Israel’s founding to the principles of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion triggered worldwide interest and outrage. This series broadcast every day during the month of Ramadan “…on 22 Arab stations, among them Egypt 2, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq, Lebanon and other Arab states.” [Official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, November 1, 2002]”

“The purpose of the military policy is to impose this situation on the residents and force them to leave their homes, and this is done in the framework of the Protocols of Zion…[Official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, November 18, 2001]

“For the second consecutive year, Arab television featured a vicious anti-Semitic series that depicts stereotypical Jews hatching a plot for Jewish world control and domination. The program, Ash-Shatat (“The Diaspora”) is a Syrian production and was aired in October and November 2003 by the Lebanon-based satellite television network Al-Manar, which is owned by the terrorist organization Hezbollah. Al-Manar is widely available to viewers across the Muslim and Arab world and around the world.” (From ADL)

Syria

At the 2005 Cairo IBF a stand of the Syrian publisher displayed a new, 2005 edition of the Protocols authorized by the Syrian Ministry of Information. In Syria government-controlled television channels occasionally broadcast mini-series concerning the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, along with several other anti-semitic themes.

I am not quoting these sources as some sort of Arab bashing. These are factual quotes – the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are widely spread throughout the world of the Crescent Moon, and they do have a huge impact as they are almost never refuted or criticized. To many in the Arab World, the Protocols are a second Qu’ran, which they are familiarized with as soon at they are old enough to go to a madrasa.

And let’s not forget Mohammad Amin al-Husayni – the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who promised Hitler that he would purge the Jews from Brittish Palestine…

“He repeated his former support for Germany and “wanted to know to what extent the Third Reich was prepared to support the Arab movement against the Jews.

He requested that:

“Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.

He doesn’t cite the Protocols, but then he didn’t need to, as the Protocols were already at the core of the reason why the Jews had to be exterminated.

My point is that when we in the Western World hear about Arab and/or Islamic hatred for the State of Israel and Zionism – they are not speaking of just disliking having to give up some land, or human rights abuses by Israeli Forces, they truly believe that the very existence of Israel is part of a World Wide Jewish Conspiracy to dominate the world and make them slaves.

They believe this because this is what is fed to them through the media they have access to, it is being preached to them by their religious leaders and taught to them in their schools.

Ironically, they fail to see that the mechanisms described in the Protocols are being used against them by their leaders, not just as a diversion of attention from the corruption of their own governments, but to lull them into a dream of re-resurrecting the Empire of Saladin the Great. See earlier entry.

Other Entries in this series:

Shalom!

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UN Resolution 194 part 2 – The Refugees

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 12, 2006


“A refugee is a person seeking asylum in a foreign country in order to escape persecution, war, terrorism, extreme poverty, famines, and natural disaster. Some regional legal instruments further include those seeking to escape generalized violence in the definition of a refugee. Those who seek refugee status are sometimes known as asylum seekers and the practice of accepting such refugees is that of offering political asylum. The most common asylum claims to industrialized countries are based upon political and religious grounds.” (from Wikipedia)The refugee is a person actively seeking asylum – not his or her children born in the new country or in transit to the new country. This is the definition of a refugee, and by that definition only 1/6 of the Palestinian “refugees” registerd with the UN are actual refugees. And only a third of those are actually refugees from Israel proper. The rest are refugees from Gaza, the Westbank, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon. And they actually hail from these countries, but were expelled or made persona non-grata from and in those countries, by laws passed after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

“The historian Shmuel Katz in his book ‘Battleground’ [21] argues that the Arab refugees were not driven from Palestine by anyone. The vast majority left, whether of their own free will or at the orders or exhortations of their leaders, always with the same reassurance-that their departure would help in the war against Israel. The [Palestinian]Arabs are the only declared refugees who became refugees not by the action of their enemies or because of well-grounded fear of their enemies, but by the initiative of their own leaders. For nearly a generation, those leaders have willfully kept as many people as they possibly could in degenerating squalor, preventing their rehabilitation, and holding out to all of them the hope of return and of “vengeance” on the Jews of Israel, to whom they have transferred the blame for their plight. Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister 1948-49, stated the following in his memoirs. “Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return.” From Wikipedia

In fact, the above Arab countries were forbidden by the Arab League to accept Palestinians as legal citizens in any Arab country. Jordan is the only country which has historically granted citzenship to the Palestinian Arabs, before 1948 – Now why on earth would the Arab League do such a thing? ““to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland” hm, sounds fishy, considering that 80% of the people who identify as “Palestinians” actually are JORDANIANS – yes, 80% of the land area that made up the Brittish Palestinian Mandate before 1948, was annexed by the Hashmenites and turned into Jordania – over the heads of the Palestinian Arabs.

But off course all of this is the doing of Israel…and you cannot believe one word of what I have said here, because it was said by a Jew, as a part of a secret and devilish plan to accomplish Jewish World domination.

Shalom!

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The Loss of an Identity

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 5, 2006


In response to a Friend I wrote:

“I assume you are speaking about Haim Harari’s Undeclared WWIII.Yes, it might sound like that, but in fact he is claiming that there’s a war going on, and then he explains how this is. I agree that he is drawing it to it’s extremes, when he claims that it is the Islamic world against the rest of the World. But I do think he has a point about the method, structure and underlying reasons for Terror Actions as such.Instruments of terror used to be Assassinations, Revolutions, and Up-Risings – they were traditionally aimed at Governments. Even the IRA did not target the public, although they used modern methods of Terrorism (bombings, hostage taking etc) – the Islamic militants have changed the targeting and excecution of Terrorism.I agree that not all Islamists are Terrorists – I suspect, but it is only a suspicion, that it has to do with culture. The Muslims of Indonesisa are Peaceful, but it seems to me that Muslims in the Middle East are not, and even that is a generalization, because not all Muslims in the Middle East are non-Peaceful…so it’s a specific Group, not necessarily tied to their Islamic Faith. Then what is it? I think Haim Harari gives a pretty good picture.[a side note:]I am now going to say something that might sound like I am saying that Islam is a Barbaric Religion – it’s hard for me to explain this, mostly because English is not my native tongue, so please keep this in mind. Put Islam into a historica/cultural perspective and it becomes pretty clear that the Middle East is a Tribal Society, based in Tribal Religion – Yes, Judaism is a Tribal Religion too – the only real difference between Judaism and Islam in this context is TIME – Judaism has been around for some 2000 years longer than Islam, which means that if you give Islam in the Middle East and it’s adherents another 1500 years (at most) it will have “evolved” beyond explicit Tribal culture.No, this is not intended as an expression value or judgement. Let’s not forget that Saladin the Great founded one of the most advanced and enlightened Civilizations the world has ever seen.I don’t intend to insult Islam or Muslims, and if I have done so, I apologize. [end side note]

I think that what Haim Harari is aiming at is not Islam or even Muslims, but this Tribal Culture that is using Islam as a pretext for it’s craziness. It could just as well have been Xianism or Shintoism or for that matter Judaism, the Religion is just a Coat in which these militants are covering themselves.Trying to force Nations to adopt Political Systems that they have not yet aquired the readiness for, through Political Evolution, such as is now being done in Iraq, is only going to make matters worse. Each Nation has to arrive at their own brand of democracy – unfortunately, we in the West are trying to force OUR brand of democracy on the Nations of the Middle/Near East, and like it or not but that is not going to work, because, fast or slow, they have to work out what democracy is within their context. Some often point to the fact that Israel is a functioning democratic State, yet it is situated in the Middle and Near east…well they forget that Israel was founded by Jews raised within the European Sphere, for at least the last 1000 years, and Jews from out-side the Middle/Near East are constantly immigrating to Israel – this gives Israel a different angle of approach.

And again, if I have said anything that is offending or insulting to Muslims or Islam – please tell me, because that was never my intention, and I did so unwittingly.”


Another Friend then commented:

“How does the tribal religion context mix in with violence? I do not see the absolute connection.”Not Tribal RELIGION – Tribal CULTURE. I pointed out that Islam and Judaism are both Tribal Religions, because it was in Religion that TRIBE originated once upon a time. Most Societies have managed to transition from Tribal to National Culture often through significant adaptations of Religious Belief – the appearance of Islam is one such adaptation – not of the Torah or the Bible, but of Tribal Religion(s) indigenous to the Near and Middle East. If we “clean out” the religious aspect from the Prophet Muhammad, what we have is a Political Leader with a vision. A vision of all Arab Tribes UNITED into ONE PEOPLE. The best way to unite and solidify a Society is through Religion – The Jews did it, The Egyptians did it…That is why I say that if we give Islam another 1500 years (at most) we will most likely see another Ottoman Empire as it was when it was at it’s High. Political Evolution.

Tribal Culture and violence mix if you think of yourself as part of a Tribe that has to defend the tribal territory from competing tribes. If you look at any Terror organization you will see that they are all individually operating “cells”. What holds the tribe together is either a common cause or a strong emotional common bond, if there are no such direct causes or emotional bonds, religion is a very strong replacement/connector – the best analogy I can give is the gang-culture in most larger cities or the example of religious/political cults – William Golding actually describes this very well in Lord of the Flies – what is it that drive the boys in Lord of the Flies? Fear. Fear that is being used/manipulated by the one with either the most resources or the most genial ways of inflict pain. Haim Harari suggests that the terror organizations’ low-rank members are being manipulated and used by Leaders with genial ways of inflicting pain – what greater pain can there be than being ostracized from the only community you are being told you belong in? Or from G-d Himself?

We all know that Islam doesn’t prescribe FGM [Female Genital Mutilation] Yet it is basically only known to Islamic Countries in North and North Central Africa – and it is being enforced/taught to people using distortions of Islam, – why do you think that is? Because of Islam? No, because of a strong tribal culture. Women/girls who manage to escape undergoing FGM are without exception expelled/shunned in some way or other – because they, through no conforming to the customs of the “tribe”, have, in the eyes of the “tribe”, denounced the “tribe”. Humans are social beings, we will do pretty much anything to avoid being alone and on the out-side.

In most tribal societies, the one with the most resources, thankfully, is the one that acts as the Leader, so violence doesn’t come into play unless there’s a competing tribe moving in on the territory. Two small tribes may even work together for a short period of time to vanquish a larger tribe – and when the goal is achieved the two small tribes will go their separate ways, only to next day be fighting each other again for the disputed hill-top or fishing water – or simply to achieve honor, either for the Tribe or for Head of the Tribe.

If the Head of the Tribe is G-d or something that replaces G-d, like strong emotions like anger, joy or grief, then you have a really good incentive, especially if you are told by Leaders of the tribe that G-d expects you to die for the Tribe, preferably taking a couple of guys from the other tribe with you as you exit from this world. Add to this fiery rallies, giant meetings, demonstrations – those are nothing but replacements for spiritual experiences. Just look at Germany during the Third Reich – ordinary, good, moral and ethical Germans were gathering en masse for the privilige to chant “Heil H-tler” and “Sieg H-eil” and sing “Horst Wessel” – even those who did not believe in Nazism, who went to one or two of those rallies would find themselves chanting along, salute and all. And what was Nazi Germany’s basic chant? “Us, we the tribe, against Them, the other Tribe. And what was it Hitler used to drive that home? An injustice – a moment in history that most Germans thought of with feelings of being humiliated – the Versaille Peace Treaty.

Guess what – the Arabs of the Near/Middle East have their own Versaille Peace treaty, only it was signed at Sevres 1920. Most came from that Peace Treaty feeling scr-ewed, royally scr-ewed. The anger many Arab Nations have towards the West is actually well-based in history. When the Ottoman Empire fell, many Arabs felt that they had really, really lost something. They had lost what made them ARABS. Oh they were still Arabs, and they were still Muslims, but their sense of self had been shattered.

Now, most went on, picking up the pieces, without much ado – but within the fabric of the Arab Nations in the Near and Middle East, there were those for whom there were no pieces to pick up, no alternative other than trying to either get it back or at least get even. Those were easy prey for the power hungry and the unscrupulous. What is it most of these Groups/Nations are saying they want? An Islamic/Muslim IDENTITY. They want to become ARABS again,
like they were under Muhammad, and under Saladin the Great – and we are telling them, from their perspective that they can’t ever be allowed to be ARABS. No wonder they hate us.

So when someone comes along and tell these Lost Arabs that he can give them this back, and more even, they grab it.

Not all – as I said above, not all Arabs feel this way, but the ones with just a little too much hopelessness do. Along the way I believe they have lost sense of what is really, really driving them. Now it has just become hatred aimed at the “Other Tribe”.

Shalom!

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