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The hypocrisy of the Radical Far Left

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on September 2, 2007


From an earlier post:

They [the radical left] like to make comparisons to South Africa and the Apartheid Regime. I was part of the movement against Apartheid – and let me tell you, not once did I hear anyone call for the obliteration of the white population of South Africa or a call to eradicate South Africa as a State – not once. But I do hear those cries from the Radical Far Left in regards to Jews and Israel.

I have some additional thoughts here.

Just as I did not “hear anyone call for the obliteration of the white population of South Africa or a call to eradicate South Africa as a State – not once…,” nor did I hear anyone suggest that South Africa be usurped by Namibia or Zimbabwe, or that the white population be deported out of Africa all together.

They claim it’s the same, but they are not willing to suggest the same solution. That’s the hypocrisy of the Radical Left on the issue of Israel.

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Dummies for Antisemitism

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 29, 2007


“Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism. Even denial of Israel’s right to exist – obscene though that is – is anti-Zionism, not antisemitism, despite the fact that the route from the one to the other is slippery and steep. We do not serve the fight against prejudice by blurring these distinctions.” Quote by Britain’s Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sachs

“Criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. Of course it isn’t. Millions of people have been saying that time after time after time, but some antisemites just won’t get it. But if you criticize Israel because it’s Jewish, then it’s antisemitic. (My emphasis)

Denial of Israel’s right to exist is not antisemitic. Not even denying the existence of Israel is antisemitic. It’s just stupid.” Ketutar on In Reply

The core of the problem with distinguishing antisemitism from antizionism is exactly this: What is the motivation?

I would say that a great many people who claim to be antizionists do not make the distinction between Jews and Zionists or Israel and the Jewish People. They really do live by the this creed:

“I never separated the Zionists and the Jews in this thread or anywhere.” (this is an actual quote from a man who vehemently claims that he is not an antisemite.) “Agreed, I did interchange Israel and Jews incorrectly sometimes, but you have to admit that Jews and Israel are most often interchangeable.” (this another actual quote from the same man.)

Antizionism becomes antisemitism the moment it mixes things like this, either in open speech like above or in thought.

These people – most often on the Radical Far Left – are so accustomed to this kind of thinking that they simply do not see their own thought patterns clearly. I have through my many discussions with the Pro-Palestinian Cadre on line only met TWO people whom I consider intelligent and astute enough to make this distinction, and one of them is a border-line case :-). The majority regurgitate the above mishmash in various forms, consciously or subconsciously.

They wish to criticize Israel or question its right to exist, but they invariably end up spouting antisemitic sentiments, and really don’t understand why they are met by opposition.

They also seem incapable of understanding that not all Israelis support the human rights violations committed by the Israeli Authorities, or that all zionism is not racist.

They like to make comparisons to South Africa and the Apartheid Regime. I was part of the movement against Apartheid – and let me tell you, not once did I hear anyone call for the obliteration of the white population of South Africa or a call to eradicate South Africa as a State – not once. But I do hear those cries from the Radical Far Left in regards to Jews and Israel.

This is what tells me that while a few do know how make the distinction, the majority does not, and that is the core problem.

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On the matter of Anti-Semitism III

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on May 14, 2007


Basic Tactics of the Radical Far Left

1. Ask Rhetorical Questions or Questions that in it’s body carries one or several assumptions/presuppositions. Example:

“Why do you Zionists support a murderous and genocidal Government?”

The person asking this kind of question isn’t interested in getting an answer. He or she is disguising a truck load of prejudice, presuppositions and logically fallacious assumptions for the purpose of propaganda, in the form of a question. This is a set up that wants its target to start defending him or herself against the numerous allegations brought through those prejudices, presuppositions and logically fallacious assumptions – best answered by pointing out that the question is not a real question, like I just did. Note that “Zionist” is a RFL buzzword for “Jew” or someone either married to a Jew or not having displayed enough Anti-Israeli sentiments throughout the debate.

If you engage in answering the question, the person asking has succeeded in his or her mission, to distract attention from the real debate, which most likely is about some imaginary fact he or she brought earlier. Stick to debunking the fallacies of those facts using objective and verifiable facts from objective sources, and you will be fine. Remember that you are not debating the person behind the posting, you are debating the ideas expressed in the posting.

2. Make blanket statements about Jews and belittle them.

“Get a debate started and you’ll see that the Jews will lose the argument and the sentiment of the public in almost every turn.”

Here’s a blatant Anti-Semitic statement – it really cannot be any clearer than this. The best way to deal with that is to point out that it is a blanket statement that targets all Jewish People.

This kind of statement will surface when there are no other viable arguments accessible to the RFL – next will be the allegation that you are either a Nazi or a Racist. This is a sure sign that you have those people backed into a corner. You can safely leave the debate knowing that you did well.

3. Refuse to answer any questions pertaining to the issue – such as the source of their facts, and countering with more None-Question like above.

This is staple food for the RFL, especially if the person you are debating is not particularly intelligent or capable of gleaning information from diverse sources. Chances are that they have not understood your questions – chances are also that they have understood your questions, but doesn’t like the answers they come up with, and don’t want to be caught being incorrect. Most likely they are refusing to answer your questions as an attempt to silence you through ignoring you, at the same time try to make you look bad by bombarding you with questions based in prejudice, presuppositions and logically fallacious assumptions. Keep pointing out that they are not answering your questions – list your questions so that it becomes clear exactly what they do not want to answer – again remember that you are not debating the person behind the posting, you are debating the ideas expressed, and each post they make gives you an opportunity to debunk those ideas. That is why you are debating them.

4. Cut and paste News articles from sources that are viciously Anti-Semitic/Anti-Zionist, along with pictures that has little or nothing to do with the objective Topic of the debate.

This is the most aggressive tactic in their arsenal – apart from personal attacks and accusations of being a Nazi/Racist – and they have only one purpose: To derail any intelligent debate and appeal to iemotions. Those Cut and Paste Bombings are often given highly aggressive and unfactual Titles, intended to grab attention and steer the discussion away from rational arguments in to the quagmire of “defense/attack”.5. “Two wrongs always make One right” or “They did it first…”.

They will defend the use of terrorism by pointing out that Israel or Groups of Jewish people have in the past acted similarly, often accompanying their assertions with references to the Stern-Gang, Lehi and Irgun, using past incidents as justification for present acts of terrorism against Jews and Israel. They will, when the irrelevance of those references are pointed out, claim that you are supporting Israeli Military Terrorism against the defenseless Palestinian People, who are just defending themselves, and because you do that, Palestinian terrorism is naturally justifiable and right.

6. Re-Defining established definitions of concepts such as “Genocide”, “Anti-Semitism” “Terrorist”.

Genocide, in the vocabulary of the RFL, becomes any harm to or death of a Palestinian, regardless of who killed or why. Anti-Semitism in their dictionary has little or nothing to do with hate of the Jewish People. It now means “hatred for any person belonging to the Semitic language Group, EXCEPT the Jews…”. Terrorist is no longer a person that carries out acts of Terrorism against innocent civilians, iit is proud, patriotic and g-dfearing “freedom fighter” who is only doing what he or she needs to to achieve his or her goal – in this case the utter annihilation of the Jewish People.

Shalom!

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