“The ultimate conflict between Judaism and Christianity”
Posted by Henric C. Jensen on October 15, 2007
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.- Deuteronomy 24:16
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. – Romans 5:8
Conclusion: PAUL WAS A TRAITOR TO THE TORAH! And NO Christian can claim to be a true spiritual descendant of the ancient Hebrews!
This ties in with my last post here – the claims of being the rightful heir to the Jewish Legacy. Regardless of Paul and his views, it is impossible to hold both believes. If one believes that each and every one of us die for our own sin, one cannot logically, credibly also believe that another person, demig-d or not, has died for our sin. And the other way around. Those two are mutually exclusive.
Now, there is nothing wrong with the idea that some demig-d dies for the sin of humanity, many have believed that prior to the Xians, but it is not compatible with the Faith of either the Ancient Hebrews or the Faith of Modern Judaism.
The author of the above quoted Blog, is quite right when he calls this “The ultimate conflict between Judaism and Christianity”, because this is exactly where Judaism and Xiansim part ways on the Tree of Religion.
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Dale Husband said
Well, I just noticed this:
http://oneworldorder.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/huh/
“If you read the whole post, you can’t help but wonder what this blog author is getting at. I mean, really: Where is the connection between the post and his (very loud) claim?”
Only someone totally ignorant of traditional Jewish teachings, which I am NOT, would ask such a thing! Plus, I found it astounding that anyone would be confused by my pointing out that two plain, simple statements totally contradict each other!
I think that guy was in denial, and I just want him and others to quit swimming in that Egyptian river and WAKE UP!
Seriously, I thought he was just a stupid troll.
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Silly Old Bear said
Exactly because it is not crystal clear to most non-Jews and non-Xians, clarifying is a good idea. By assuming that people would see what you see, without something further, you unfortunately came across as a total ass this time.
SOB
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Dale Husband said
Well, that guy should not have phrased his inquiry the lame way he did. I cannot show it to you because it was never posted and has disappeared, but I can show what a RESPECTFUL inquiry might have looked like:
“Could you please explain exactly how Paul was a traitor to the Torah? Are you saying that any Jew who converts to Christianity betrays the Torah, or was Paul a special case? What is Torah and are YOU a follower of it? If not, how can you define who betrays it?”
He said NONE of those things! But you answered him anyway, so I don’t have to. Thank you for that, SOB.
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Silly Old Bear said
Dale,
I cannot imagine this person to be anywhere DISRESPECTFUL when asking for a clarification – I really cannot.
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OneSmallStep said
Would a Christian argue that both are fufilled, in the fact that they have died with Jesus on the cross, and so did die for their own sin, in a way?
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Timothy Leon Smith/SillyOld Bear said
This comment was delete by the Moderator – I do not tolerate Messianics or Missionaries spreading their filth here. This is a Jewish Blog, not a Xian blog.
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Dale Husband said
“Would a Christian argue that both are fufilled, in the fact that they have died with Jesus on the cross, and so did die for their own sin, in a way?”
I suppose that is possible, but that would not be in accord with what I understood from Christian teachings. If Jesus died, then we didn’t have to die, so the notion of sharing in the death of Jesus would be nonsense.
I once saw a poster that had Jesus on the cross and it said, “I died for you. Are you living for me?”
No one needs to die for me, and I live for the welfare of humanity, so as I see it, I am far superior in spirituality than most Christians now.
Dale Husband, ex-Christian turned agnostic
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