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Archive for August 4th, 2007

Sanctimonius Bullshit Part 2

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 4, 2007


After I commented on Sanctimonious Bullshit in response to the guy who wrote the original quote, I decided that my response was deserving of a Blog Entry all of its own.

“Thanks for the comment. You made some very interesting assumptions. First of all, I’m not “an adherent of one of the most murderous religions on earth.” No more than I am an adherent for racism, just because many in this nation used to be (and many still are) racists. Do you disown your family because of past mistakes they’ve made? Could Christianity not have changed for the better over the centuries? I denounce the Crusades and other murderous acts of Christians. They were not “of God.” That’s not what Jesus taught. So, no, I won’t be saying that we can’t judge “Xtianism” by a “few bad eggs” during the past 2000 years. I will be saying, “Judge Christianity for what it is TODAY.” No different than you wanting to be judged for who you are today, not in your past.”

Did I say one word about the Crusades? No I did not. Because I am judging Xianism for what it is today – and it is still murderous. It still preaches the Global conversion of Jews, Pagans, Muslims and others, to whom it’s equal to spiritual suicide to convert to a religion not of their ancestors. Unfortunately this command to commit spiritual murder is in the Greek Scriptures, along side a whole lot of other Anti-other-religions speech.

If you believe that Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Hindus, Buddhists and all others who are not Xians should convert to Xianism, then you are an adherent of one of the most murderous religions on earth – TODAY.

I have been trashed by ordinary, non-hostile Xians for using the terms “many Xians” the same way you used many in “So here’s a religion in which many of its followers are seeking to kill Christians” – so somehow it is a generalizing term – besides during the last 6 years to date Xian soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed Xians in the last 1400 years…

I would not have objected if you had said “Radical Islamists”, but you didn’t – you generalized.

Now, what is good for the goose should be good for the gander, Nuh?

“Will you deny that a growing number of Islamics are extremists who wish to rid this planet of anyone who is not Islamic?”

Actually, I would – I would say that is a fear filled and Islamophobic hyperbole. Why, because the number of Radical Islamists during the last 1400 years have been constant, just as it has been constant when it comes to Radical Xianists. What have changed though is the way we communicate in the World, both Virtually and in 3-D. Before 9/11 the US didn’t bother to monitor the Arab World – but nothing have changed since 9/11 – just the way people get around.

Saying that people are not “of G-d” because they misbehave when it comes to your own religion and not extending the same “excuse” to the “Muslims” that do not represent Islam is sanctimonious.

I will comment more, but now I have to relinquish the computer to my wife -)

next installment:

By the way, how many radicals of 300 million does it take to create a dangerous situation?

Isn’t this just another way of spreading the Islamophobic hyperbole, I think it is – I could counter with saying that a radical fraction of 2 billion Xians is as dangerous – and name those too – the people adhering to the message of the book series “Left Behind”, which among other things teach children to kill non-believers, the members of the American Family Association, and other more or less militant, aggressive Xian Fundamentalist “ministries”. Now, those are Radical Xianists, and by all means let’s not forget the White Supremacist Groups, that also profess to be Xians, and the groups that blow up abortion clinics, murder doctors and nurses that are willing to perform abortions…good Xian kids who go gay-bashing as a weekend pass time – or for that matter people who think like Ann Coulter “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”

“Third, I have read about judging, AND I pray about it. You had no problem quoting Jesus in Matthew 7:1, but you didn’t finish the quote:

“For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.”

Jesus qualifies our judging. He says that the way we judge others is the way he’s going to judge us.”

Now if we just read it – and not attribute the judging to Yeshu ben Miriam – what do we get? Right – as you judge others you will be judged by them – what goes around comes around – what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If I’m judged according to my blog statement, I don’t think I have much concern. Praying for a religion that has a growing radical element is NOT judging them.

But you are judging them – by deeming that they need your prayers – how the h-ll do you know that? You don’t. You assume they do, judged by your standards, and your ideas of what Prayer is – of which you can know nothing, neither of us do. The very idea that other people are in need of your prayers is arrogant and presumptious.

It’s praying for them. My prayer for Islamics is that they WILL be a peaceful religion and stop those within their movement who seek to radicalize it.

Well, you sure aren’t helping things by putting out Blog entries that only serve to heat things up, rather than cool them down, through Islamophobic hyperbole and generalizations. On the contrary, you are only adding to ideas like that of Ann Coulter.

By the way, that’s the same prayer I often lift up for Christianity. I wouldn’t call that hypocrisy. I’d call it consistency.

That you can do, but leave the rest of the world alone. Really.

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Why Me and not Him?

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 4, 2007


 

“God Got Me Out

I was reading about a Jewish guy who was caught up in the collapsing bridge but escaped with his life. He says that God saved him. Now the sentiment is nice, he’s giving God credit for his life, but what about the people who didn’t escape? Where was God for them and their families? Was his life more valuable than the life of a 20 month old little girl and her young mother?”[…]”Bad things do happen to people all the time, however. It’s the luck of the draw. We give thanks for life because life is a gift, but I’m not going to claim God makes sure I stay alive every day”


I am going to go out on a limb here be so arrogant that I offer a solution to the problem of mindless suffering and death – one that includes G-d’s compassion in a rather cynical way.

How about this idea: Perhaps people die before their time because their “life-line” leads to a place that would be far worse, perhaps involving other “third parties”? What if the child, in the above quote, in the future would have become a mad scientist and released some deadly virus that we have no cure for that would cause the death of countless of people, perhaps the very person who is to invent that cure? Or people die “untimely” because their death will eventually lead to many others being saved?

Ultimately G-d is in charge – and while He doesn’t necessarily intercept directly with us on a personal level, as suggested by the Jewish Guy in the quote above, He is monitoring our “life-lines”, because our “life-lines” interact with the entire Creation over which He is the Master. That doesn’t mean that G-d actively goes in and saves or kills people in situations like natural disasters, but He allows it, because He sees the bigger picture.

A couple of days ago I watched a Documentary on National Geographic about an awful Airplane accident. The moral that could be derived from that story was: Because a certain young man was killed in that accident, his parents became obssessed with finding the cause of the accident, and eventually a serious flaw in the electrical system driving the cargo doors on ALL airplanes of the same type and age was discovered and many, many lives could be saved, when Boeing was forced to amend the flaw.

This idea may be totally off – and it’s not at all like this – but I like it, that is how I handle all the “meaningless suffering and killing” in the world.

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