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Quran in the crapper – A Hate Crime?

Posted by Henric C. Jensen on August 1, 2007


You know, there’s a fine line between trying to get people to be sensitive and legislating in favor of people to avoid offending them. I could understand if someone beat a Muslim with a Quran. That’s a hate crime. Desecrating it? That’s hateful, but it’s not a crime. We can burn flags, we can piss on a statue of Jesus, we sure as hell can put Qurans in the toilet. I don’t care if it was intended to “intimidate” someone. There was no threat of violence, it was just a Quran in the crapper.

We cannot turn a blind eye to the message sent by a Quran thrown in the toilet, and pretend that it’s just a prank or doesn’t have meaning. Because it does, especially if there is an over all presence of religious or ethnic prejudices and phobias being circulated in society in general.“Where they burn books, they soon start to burn people…”

Throwing a Quran in a toilet might not be a violent hate crime, but it is certainly an expression of hate, and that is how it is understood by Muslims. It cannot be understood any other way in the Anti-Muslim climate that is prevalent in the US after 9/11. Hell, hating Muslims is almost a requirement to be considered a patriot.

One of the comments on the blog entry I quoted above reads:

“A hate crime is, partially, an act of terrorism.

Just wait and follow me a minute.

Let’s take your stereotypical hate crime. Klan members take cross, burn it on black family’s lawn. What happens? It sends a message to the family in the home, and the black families around that home: “You’re not welcome, we hate you, and we can very well do very bad things to you.”

Terrorism by its nature is meant to strike terror into the hearts of others who are similar to the victims who get hit. It’s to send threatening message to mess up their way of life and intimidate them.

Putting a holy book in a toilet is not intimidating. It’s immature.”

It’s very interesting that this commentator doesn’t draw the logical consequences of what she is saying – using one message to say:”We hate you…” is a hate crime, but not another, hm – how is telling someone “We hate you…” not intimidating, especially if the holiest item to them is used to say “We hate you”? If someone decided to burn Torah scrolls or throw tzitziyot in the toilet, I sure would read that as message that I as a Jew is hated for simply being a Jew.

Unless this is seen as a hate crime and dealt with as such, what will it be next – throwing Muslims in the toilet?

These two people need a couple of lessons in empathy and imaginative thinking. They also need to have their Liberal Cards revoked, because they are a shame to Liberals all over.

3 Responses to “Quran in the crapper – A Hate Crime?”

  1. Dale Husband said

    I agree. To burn a Bible would certainly be seen as hate against Christians and Jews. Why the double standard regarding Muslims?


  2. Andreas G said

    Is the action a hate crime?

    1) Is it a crime?

    From Merriam Webster:
    Main Entry: crime
    1 : an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law
    2 : a grave offense especially against morality
    3 : criminal activity
    4 : something reprehensible, foolish, or disgraceful

    Well, the action might not have violated applicable law, but it was certainly
    a) a grave offense especially against morality and
    b) something reprehensible, foolish, or disgraceful

    2) Was it a display of hate?

    Main Entry: hate
    a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury
    b : extreme dislike or antipathy : LOATHING ==> to dislike greatly and often with disgust or intolerance

    I guess we all can agree that you do not flush things down the loo that you love.
    You CAN flush things you have no use for, like e.g. three day old remains of pea soup.

    To flush a Qur’an, however, you most probably have to rip it to tiny pieces first else it wouldn’t go down the tube.

    a) You have to get physical on that book first.
    b) If you do that at home, no one will ever notice.
    c) This however was done at a university campus toilet, the Qur’an was NOT ripped up, so was obviously not meant to be flushed but rather to be DISPLAYED lying in a toilet.
    One therefore must conclude that this action contained a message. One of hate? Obviously.

    ==>Hate crime?

    From my point of view, a clear double positive.

    Just my 2 euro cents…


  3. Thank you, Dale and Andreas! 🙂

    Andreas, especially for the very concise and enlightening educational piece ((()))

    As for the double standards, and why they are there for Muslims, but not for Xtians or Jews – I suppose that not even Liberals are immune to the prejudiced and islamophobic climate in the US (or for that matter in Europe). I have a suspicion that in societies (and this can happen very quickly) where these kind of attitudes are sanctioned by local governments – and I guess that after September 11, 2001 this is the in the US – people are more likely to accept such attitudes because like it or not, our governments do actually “control” a great deal of our thinking.

    Let’s not forget that from an American point of view they are at war, and war time has always traditionally been a time of hatred towards “the enemy”. I also think that this “distaste” for Muslims have been existent in the US for longer than since 9/11 – but now, with government backing that looks like requirement, it can come out in the open, because it’s not only acceptable, it’s PC.

    That doesn’t excuse the Islamophobia expressed by the Blog I quoted, but it does explain how the double standard can be. Indoctrination, even if it’s subtle and/or implicit, is indoctrination.


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